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3 D Designs

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:45 am
by Dash
I purchased a rope and barbed wire border from Vectric and I want to change the dimensions. The borders are rectangular from the site but I want them square. Am I missing something? I cannot change the dimensions??

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:30 pm
by jeb2cav
Are you using VCarve Pro?

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:31 pm
by Dash
Hello, Jeb!!
No, cut 3-d.. Didn't know I could cut 3d's on v-carve pro. Honestly, I tried but the files would not upload to v carve so I am using cut 3-d.

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:48 pm
by Dash
Okay...I see where you are going. Import the file over? I am trying but v-carve is not picking up on the tap files...

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:14 pm
by fison
Dash,

The only way I know to manipulate a 3d element, other than scaling with Cut3D or Vector Art 3D Machinist, is with Aspire.

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:17 am
by jeb2cav
Hi Dash - Paul is spot on. I am fortunate to be using Aspire, so have only limited experience with Cut3D and Vector Art 3D Machinist (VA3DM).

A description of the model part of the workflow from Cut3D/VA3DM can be found here: http://www.cncsharktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=382

What I've found by kicking the tires with Cut3D and a Vector Art 3D model that I've purchased, is that disabling the 'Lock XYZ ratio' button does not work as expected with the 3 VA3D models I tried. By unchecking that, you are enabling the user to set the XYZ dimensions with no regard for the original model's ration. No matter what I tried and how, any time I entered a value in X, the Y would update in a ration manner.
No XYZ Ratio will not work with VA3D model
No XYZ Ratio will not work with VA3D model
While I'm a big fan of VA3D, there are other models out there, and I also have a scan probe. Using either of those, disabling the 'Lock XYZ ratio' button resulted in being able to set any of the XYZ values as I'd expect when this is disabled.
Cut3D non- VectorArt3D no XYZ ratio does work
Cut3D non- VectorArt3D no XYZ ratio does work
The good news is that there is a free, similar product to Cut3D available from VA3D downloads - VectorArt 3D Machinist (VA3DM). Using VA3DM, I was able to turn a rectangular model into a square model by disabling the 'Link Width and Height'. In the picture below, I also disabled 'Scale Depth with X and Y' before I disabled 'Link Width and Height'.
VA3DM Make a Square from a Rectangle
VA3DM Make a Square from a Rectangle
So, if you are using VA3DM, you'll want to perform a "save as" from the file menu, or you will write over the original model you downloaded. Don't panic if you forget - you can log into VA3D and download your purchase again to get back to the 'original.'

You can then import this into VCarve Pro (the v3m file), however I've also found that a file saved as a v3m from VA3DM will not load into Cut3D. It appears as if only 'original' v3m downloads from VA3D will load in Cut3D at this time.

Hope this helps clear this up enough to enable you to create what you want.

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:52 am
by Bob
After reading these posts, I have been trying the unlock ratio function out of curiosity. When using Cut3D with a Vector Art model that I purchased in STL format, I am able to change individual dimensions. Try the free samples in each of the three formats. Also, I think that Vector art allows you to change formats for a model that you have already purchased. http://www.vectorart3d.com/store/index. ... l&ID=50348 It's explained in the small print below the preview pictures.
Bob

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:36 am
by jeb2cav
Hi Bob,

That's a great catch - you can't change the dimensions out of xyz ratio in Cut3D if you start with a v3m format, but can with an stl. But you can change the dimensions out of xyz ratio of a v3m in Vector Art 3D Machinist. Thanks for finding that and sharing the info.

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:39 am
by Dash
Gentlemen, Good Morning!!!
Thank you for your advice. I had Machinist on my other puter and forgot about the program. I downloaded the latest version and it lets me manipulate the dimensions I am looking for. Thank you for all your help.
By the way, here is my first cut out...Real horseshoes and real rope. My new coffee table.

Re: 3 D Designs

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:43 pm
by Bob
Dash,
Great project. Nice combination of elements.
You should post this in the "Show off Your Projects" section.
Bob